Episode Four: Khairani Barokka


  • Rajni Shah
  • Khairani Barokka
  • Fili 周 Gibbons


trust, listening, disability justice, harm, decolonial


In the fourth episode of the podcast, Rajni Shah and Kharaini Barokka (Okka) discuss the shifting and intricate relationships between listening, safety, harm, accountability, and trust. These topics are especially poignant because (in contrast to all the other episodes) Okka and Rajni did not know each other before recording this episode of the podcast. Their conversation both comments on and embodies the complexities in inviting trust, and acknowledging our capacities for harm, when navigating conversations with strangers.

In the accompanying offering, Okka shares some of her daily wellbeing practices.

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Author Biographies

Rajni Shah

Rajni Shah (they/them) is an artist whose practice is focused on listening and gathering as creative and political acts. Key projects—always created alongside and in collaboration with others—include hold each as we fall (1999), The Awkward Position (2003-2004), Mr Quiver (2005-2008), small gifts (2006-2008), Dinner with America (2007-2009), Glorious (2010-2012), Experiments in Listening (2014-2015), Lying Fallow (2014-2015), Song (2016), I don’t know how (to decolonize myself) (2018), Feminist Killjoys Reading Group (2016-2020) and Listening Tables (2019-2020). In 2021, Rajni will publish a monograph and series of zines as part of the Performance Philosophy Series, entitled Experiments in Listening.

Khairani Barokka

Khairani Barokka is a Minang-Javanese writer and artist from Jakarta, whose work has been presented in 16 countries. Her work centres disability justice as anti-colonial praxis. She is currently Researcher-in-Residence and Research Fellow at UAL's Decolonising Arts Institute, and Associate Artist at the National Centre for Writing (UK). Among her honours, she has been Modern Poetry in Translation's Inaugural Poet-in-Residence, a UNFPA Indonesian Young Leader Driving Social Change, an Artforum Must-See for work in her Annah, Infinite series, and an NYU Tisch Departmental Fellow. Her books are Rope (Nine Arches) and Indigenous Species (Tilted Axis), and she is co-editor of two anthologies, most recently Stairs and Whispers: D/deaf and Disabled Poets Write Back (Nine Arches). Her current book is poetry collection Ultimatum Orangutan (Nine Arches, March 2021).

Fili 周 Gibbons

Fili 周 Gibbons (we/them/us) are a musician and recording engineer working across a range of community and professional contexts to support plural voices, expressions, and sonic experiences. As well as leading community workshops they frequently work with other sound and video artists, drawing on listening, memory and intuition as guiding forces in collaborative making practices. Their work interfaces with plural cultural histories and experiences, intangible arts traditions, and community-oriented sound practice.


Barokka, Khairani. 2021. 'The Grammar of Time Travel'. Catapult, 13 January. https://catapult.co/stories/the-grammar-of-time-travel-column-khairani-barokka

brown, adrienne maree. 2017. Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds. Chico, CA: AK Press.




How to Cite

“Episode Four: Khairani Barokka”. 2021. Performance Philosophy 6 (1): 12 April 2021. https://doi.org/10.21476/PP.2021.61341.

How to Cite

“Episode Four: Khairani Barokka”. 2021. Performance Philosophy 6 (1): 12 April 2021. https://doi.org/10.21476/PP.2021.61341.